Title: Do these look familiar to anyone??
Post by: TX-EcoDragon on October 14, 2003, 02:36:47 am
While viewing these try to think of where these images were captured, and then assign the appropriate caption radio call to each image, answers to follow shortly (the first one has a fill in the blank statement to get you on the right start): Image #1  Black 1 _ _ _ _ _ _ up _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Image #2  Image #3 (may have same caption as #2, this is just little different, and from another angle)  The first one to guess correctly is the winner of a new MT composite prop for their favorite steed in FB! ;-) S! TX-EcoDragon Black 1 TX Squadron XO
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Post by: TX-FlightRisk on October 14, 2003, 07:51:18 pm
Looks Like you flying over Sanfrancisco?S~TX-FlightRisk Black 3
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Post by: TX-EcoDragon on October 14, 2003, 08:03:26 pm
try again. . .here is a hint, This flight originated at an Airport named Gumrak.;-)S!TX-EcoDragonBlack 1TX Squadron XO
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Post by: TX-FlightRisk on October 14, 2003, 08:11:34 pm
Volgograd or Stalingrad Russia??? HmmmS~TX-FlightRisk Black 3
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Post by: TX-EcoDragon on October 14, 2003, 08:27:07 pm
:-DS!TX-EcoDragonBlack 1TX Squadron XO
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Post by: Shadow on October 14, 2003, 10:41:53 pm
Black1 wheels up in an EF 2000 ?Over Stalingrad ? Wow , 61 yrs too late too , damned charts.. heheS~Cya up there...TX-ShadowWhite 3
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Post by: TX-Chukar on October 14, 2003, 11:33:20 pm
What ? You guys don't even recognize the LA 7 after that last patch?TX-ChukarBlue 1
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Post by: TX-EcoDragon on October 15, 2003, 12:23:24 am
Well. . .it looks like the general vicinity has been pinned downok . . . I guess it is answer time!#1Black 1 Wheels Up North Blue #2 Black1 orbitting Checkpoint 2 Angels 4 (with west red in the back ground)(#3 Checkpoint two with Checkpoint 1 and Stalingrad in the background)I was working on a project, and decided to fly around the world in the eurofighter. I departed 0O5 (university) direct to PHNL (Honolulu) for fuel, then to Narita Japan, and from there to Novosibirsk, I over flew Anapa, and it struck me that I was loking at IL-2 country! then I started to wonder what our other IL-2/FB stomping grounds look like in FS2004. . .so I set out searching. Most names have changed so it is tough to find them other than by just flying around or trying every airport.S!TX-EcoDragonBlack 1TX Squadron XO
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Post by: TX-FlightRisk on October 15, 2003, 06:38:34 am
This has some neat Gumrak fact in it. | Airlift January 1943 To supply Sixth Army with 300 tons aday, the absolute minimum amount demandedby the army
(which really needed 500 tons) would necessitatean average of 150 fully laden Ju 52s landingin
the pocket each day. (500 tons an averageof 250 Ju 52s landing in the pocket, including loading,
unloading, losses, etc. it would mean they needed 800 Ju 52sto realize the 500 tons each day.) Of the six airfield inside the Stalingrad pocket, only Pitomnik wasproperly equiped to handle
large-scale operations. It even had lights, flare paths and signalequipments for night operations. This is not complete, I tried to add as much info as I found. If someonethinks he can help me,
please let me know. Ju 52 = Junker 52
He 111 = Heinkel 111
| Date | Number and type of airplanes flown in | Supply flown in | Kind of supply | 1st
Friday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
120 planes | 230 tons
. | Ammo / Food
Medical supply |
.2nd
Saturday | No flights
. | 0 ton
. | No supply
. |
.3rd
Sunday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
About 120 planes | 250 ton
. | Ammo / Food
Medical supply |
.4th
Monday | .
. | .
. | Fuel / Ammo
Medical supply |
.5th
Thuesday | 21 He 111
. | 40 tons
. | Ammo / Fuel
Medical supply |
Too cold for the Junkers to start
6th
Wednesday | | | Fuel / Ammo
Medical supply |
.7th
Thursday | | | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
.| Friday 8th, 12.00 noon | ?Ju 52 + ? He 111 | | Ammo / Fuel |
| until Saturday 9th 12.00 | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111 | 220 tons | Medical supply |
For the first time a FW 200 'Condor' plane landedin the pocket. 7 of them arrived and took
156 wounded out of the pocket. The 7 FW 200 flew22.5 tons of medical supply, 5 tons fuel
9 tons of ammo in the pocket.
. |
10th
Sunday | | | Fuel / Ammo
Medical supply |
For the first time a Junker 290 plane landed in thepocket. 78 wounded flew out with it.
A Junker 290 plane carried 10 tons of supply.
.11th
Monday | No flights
. | 0 ton
. | No supply
. |
.12th
Thuesday | | | Fuel / Ammo
Medical supply |
.13th
Wednesday | No flights
. | 0 tons
. | No supply
. |
.Wednesday 13th - 14th
Thursday (at night) | 45 Junker 52
41 He 111 + ? Ju 290 | 160 ton
. | Ammo / Fuel
Medical supply |
A Ju 290 with 80 wounded on board crashed secondsafter the take-off. Only one survided.
NCO Alfred Lutz. The pilot who flew the planenamed Häning.
14th
Thursday | No flights
. | 0 tons
. | No supply
. |
.15th
Friday | | | Fuel / Ammo
Medical supply |
.16th
Saturday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
About 39 planes | 68.5 tons
. | Ammo / Fuel
Medical supply |
Pitomnik airstrip overran by the Soviet forces. Gumrakairstrip is now in use.
Until today + 20.000 wounded or sick soldierswere evacuated out of the Stalingrad pocket.
.
NOTE :
Between the first of January 1943 and January16th, 1943, 2325 tons of supply arrived.
An average of 145 tons a day.
. 17th
Sunday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
About 45 planes | About 82 tons
Flown in and dropped | 28 t ammo / 48 t med. Food / 4.65m3 fuel |
The first planes landed on Gumrak airstrip.
.18th
Monday | | | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
.19th
Thuesday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
About 40 planes | 32 tons flown in
30 tons dropped | Fuel / Ammo
Medical supply |
.20th
Wednesday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
57 planes - 25 landed | 52.2 tons
Flown in and dropped | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
.21st
Thursday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
100 planes | About 200 tons
. | Fuel / Ammo
Medical supply |
Soviet forces pressed in on Gumrak airstrip at night.The airfield is no longer available for the air-lift.
.22nd
Friday | ?
? | ?
DROPPED | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
The last available airstrip 'Stalingradski' is operational,6 planes are crashing on the strip trying
to land.
.23rd
Saturday | ?
? | ?
DROPPED | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
Fall of Gumrak and Stalingradski airstrip.No airstrips available anymore.
From now on the supply needs to be dropped.
.24th
Sunday | 3 Ju 52 + 4 He 111
1 FW 190 / 8 planes | 12.5 tons
DROPPED | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
Fog. Planes flew very low. About 50 meter above ground.
.25th
Monday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
7 planes | 13 tons
DROPPED | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
8 planes take-off. -20 degrees Celcius
.26th
Thuesday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
52 planes | 46.3 tons
DROPPED | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
The 6th Army pocket is cut in two. The southern partis twice as big as the northern. Droppings
above the two pockets.
. |
27th
Wednesday | 57 Ju 52 + 50 He 111 +
5 FW 200 | 103 tons
DROPPED | Ammo 28 tons
Medical supply 75 tons |
Droppings above the two pockets.
. 28th
Thursday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
87 planes | 83.1 ton
DROPPED | Ammo
Medical supply |
The southern pocket is cut in two. Droppings abovethe 3 German pockets at Stalingrad.
.
NOTE :
Between January, 17th and January, 28th, 790tons of supply was flown in or dropped.
An average of 60.75 tons a day.
29th
Friday Friday, 29th +
Saterday, 30th (at night) | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
109 planes ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
+ ? He 177 / 124 planes | 108.8 tons
DROPPED 130 tons
DROPPED | Food / Ammo
Medical supply Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
Major General Pickert of the 9th Flak Division isdismissed by Milch. Droppings above the
3 German pockets at Stalingrad. 125 planes take-off.(day) 151 planes take-off. (at night)
. 30th
Saturday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
+ ? He 177 / 85 planes | 118 tons
DROPPED | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
Droppings above the 3 German pockets at Stalingrad.89 planes take-off. (at night)
. 31st
Sunday | ? Ju 52 + ? He 111
89 planes | 72 tons
DROPPED | Food / Ammo
Medical supply |
Southern and the center pockets surrenders to theRussians. Droppings only above the northern
pocket. 109 planes take-off but only 89 are ableto reach the droppping zone. (at night)Notes :
-Several pilots / planes flew twice a day.
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Sources : BooksStopped at Stalingrad - Hayward
Luftbrücke Stalingrad - Franz Kurowski
The battle for Stalingrad - Rotundo (The 1943 Soviet General StaffStudy) |
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