IL2 Community => IL2 General Chat => Topic started by: TX-CUDA on April 26, 2004, 11:14:38 pm



Title: ...Movie Editing on the Cheap!
Post by: TX-CUDA on April 26, 2004, 11:14:38 pm
...just read this post by scragbat and thought it warranted a re-post here...

Some of you may not know that you can actually edit movie sequences with the Forgotten Battles 'track player' rather than using a third-party editor.

If you already know how to do this then you need not read any further.
For those that don't then read on
Here is a simple tutorial on how to make a self-contained mini-movie in a single track (.ntrk).

Start playing a previously recorded track (online or offline) with the 'track player' with 'manual view' switched on. Press the 'quick record' key and start recording from this track at the point where you want to start editing or capturing your action.
Press pause when you need to change the camera angle. Use any camera angle you want such as F2, F3, F6 or even move to a different aircraft (Shift+F2, CTRL+F2 etc). Do not stop recording while the player is paused as 'quick record' does not record pauses.
When you are happy with your new camera angle or aircraft view, unpause the track player and let it run while still recording.
Once again, press pause when you want to change the camera angle or move to a different aircraft and unpause when ready.
Keep repeating this process over and over until until you have enough footage or your recording culminates in a downed aircraft.

When you play back this 'edited' track with 'manual view' switched off, it will be with all the cameras, angles and aircraft you selected and there will be no pauses. Everything gets recorded even the FOV and zoom settings!

Editing a sequence this way is also purely sequential so there won't be any continuity errors for the sequence.

It's not a perfect way to edit but it is simple and doesn't require any third-party editors.
Put a sequence together in this way, play it back with 'manual view' off and you can then capture the entire scene in fraps!

Hope this is of use to some of you

Regards
Scrag

 
Scragbat's Forgotten Battles Virtual Movies

TX-Cuda

...one Shot...One KILL!


Title: Re: ...Movie Editing on the Cheap!
Post by: TX-CUDA on April 26, 2004, 11:16:51 pm
....here should be the link to Scragbats' movies..."Sabotage" is for you head Bangers out there!!http://www.appy55.dsl.pipex.com/TX-Cuda...one Shot...One KILL!


Title: Re: ...Movie Editing on the Cheap!
Post by: TX-Kingsnake on April 28, 2004, 09:26:11 pm
Use this method to get your raw footage. By no means should this be your final product. I agree that this is a basic way to get raw footage. Left as is the sequence will yield yet another series senseless, mindless and pointless shots.If you want to edit on the cheap use windows moviemaker. It ships stock with MOST XP systems. If you are going to make a movie count on spending at least a month to learn how to edit and make your film. Write a storyboard. This is a comic strip sketch of what the movie is about and how you envision the movie. Stick figures are ok if you can't draw well. After all, nobody will see it. The storyboard helps you develop the narrative or plot in concert with the camera work. It also is a starting point for making the map in the FMB. Make sure that the viewer understands what is going on in the film. A good movie will be entertaining to someone that doesn't play the game. Music, sound score and foley(sp?) or sound effects. Choose a movie score or piece of music that will fit with the story. Too often the music is really slow during action sequences or heavy metal during slow takeoff sequences. Movie scores are the best bet. Why? Because movie scores are composed to convey the emotional backdrop of the story. Movie scores are instrumental and abstract compared to a Bob Dylan song that has lyrics. Lyrics will get in the way of telling the story. 'Everybody must get stoooned' doesn't fit a dogfight. While music is subjective it is also technical and oriented towards a venue, audience and format. Choose a score for your film carefully as it will determine the timing of your edits and sets the tempo for the entire film. Once the score is in, place timeline markers at the transitions in music. This makes a visual marker of the mood changes. Later, place timeline markers at the beats. Edit the video to the beats. Watch a t.v. commercial and count the number of edits. In a fast paced commercial you could see as many as 40 edits in a 30 second timeframe. Keep this in mind for the action sequences. Punctuate the editing by cutting on the beat. Folley (sp?), also known as sound effects, should be placed on a separate audio track. Use the explosion effects, artillery fire, bullets hitting metal, and screaming to spice up the movie.  Camera control. Don't use the mouse. The mouse jerks around and doesn't look right. Mouse cameras are a sure fire way to be an amature. Use the function key buttons to track with. f6 f3 and f4 are your friend.  One last comment. Nothing is worse than having an IL-2 being destroyed by a P-39. Use the aircraft in the proper scenario to the best of your knowledge. If you aren't sure if an aircraft was in such a battle at such a time, thats o.k. But there is no excuse for a series of American planes destroying Russian planes. I could go on about this forever. TX-KingsnakeWinner of the Video creation of the year (from IL-2 footage)for Stalingrad-1942TX-KingsnakeWhite 1


Title: Re: ...Movie Editing on the Cheap!
Post by: TX-CUDA on April 29, 2004, 08:12:07 pm
...Excellent post Kingsnake! I am sure that there are some of us that only wish we had both the time and talent that you have and could make a movie that could even come close to the one you made! Thanks for the post once again..TX-CudaRecruiting Officer