I feel kind of stupid asking this question, but I must.  Can we pay for and D/L the Russian release of ROF - like we did for Black Shark?

Thanks,

S~

Gunny

Good idea... :) 

BS was from LOMAC so it was easily modded. RoF is not a legacy product. But with the economics being what they are I think the RU release will be cheaper.

Well, they announced that there would be one price for the world on their blog. . .honestly I don't know why they would do that as 400 rubles is only 15 bucks, which is the price we pay for three year old bargain basement games. . . or a burrito and a beer.

When will flight sim developers figure out that if they make their product look worthless, then it will be. . .and if they can't afford to continue development, then they won't.

I'd rather pay fair market value for a sim, and have its developer be able to afford to continue to enhance and develop it.

Because dude. You only get 2 friggin planes. Then you have to wait and pay for more planes. It is a $60 sim when you buy 4 more sets of planes. PLUS you have to be authorized to play so they don't loose out. It uses an auth server. So they can charge less by getting more on volume.


BlackShark was a rippoff - 1 chopper for $60   

60?? I paid 24 for BlackShark. . .where did you get it?? Clearly you wouldn't like the MSFS community where you buy a single addon aircraft, with much lower fidelity than BlackShark offers, without any functioning weapons systems or damage model, or multiplayer gameplay or competition aspects, and you pay 40 for it, on top of the 49.99-69.99 sim price. . .and most dedicated simers have dozens of payware addons.

All I can say is that their marketting sense lacks sense for the western audience. The other day we just paid 71 bucks after tax for a PS3 game that gave us about 15 minutes of fun. . .now that's lame in my book. I've literally gotten thousands of hours of enjoyment out of IL-2. . .but most people I know would never give it a second glance when it's sitting next to some 70 dollar Microsoft product. MS always loved to have a "Pro" or a deluxe edition, usually adding one or two features, for an extra 30 bucks, and these versions often outsold the standard versions based not on the quality of the content (clearly since usually there wasn't any real gain from the "Pro" versions that wasn't found for free with the 3rd party addons), but people will pay that premium to have "the best".

True !! I agree

Therein lies the caveat. Most people let others tell them what "the best" is and follow blindly. IL2 broke that mould to a degree but I attribute that as much to the state of flight simming at the time and the obscurity and resulting intrigue (to the western world) of the developer.

If you ARE the best, there should be no modesty in proclaiming it. Even the PC-gaming rags will usually follow suit as long as there is any amount of credibility to it.

I'm on the fence a bit regarding the sale price. With the marketing scheme basing much of the future of this title on exactly that...future sales, maybe an initial price of $15-$20 is a wise decision. Doing like the local drug dealer and getting your real sales on "the come back".

I guess, as always, only the future will tell.

I think the sim has fantastic potential, but there are still some basic things that desperately need to be "fixed" IMO, for it to reach its potential.


TB

Doing like the local drug dealer and getting your real sales on "the come back".

How do you know that ?..............  ;)

$40 now for DCS but I thought it was initially offered as a digital download for $50 in the US. Now we paid something around $30 but I forget now. Anyway I like this idea of getting a better price if you pre-order. The FSX example is a good one since we haven't seen a lot of add-ons for combat flight sims. If they can produce it for $15 in the RU market then why should it be more in the US market if it is a digital download and except for the translation it is the same product? The comparison with FSX differs with the authorization. Back to the point of the thread, and I think it is an important one. When should we buy RoF? Now when it is cheap and be rewarded by supporting the early release or later when it could either stay the same price or go up? I don't know.     

It's called fair market value. . .would you sell your beach house in Malibu for the same price as a 2 bedroom flat next to a busy highway in Novorosysk?

I'm a very diverse personality based on a myriad of life experiences. 

Just like I tell my kids (or used to rather)..."It's not what you learn, but what you remember that's really important".

Vague enough?

 8)


p.s. I too am wondering when, where and how much? Personally, though, I don't really want the Russian version unless I can get the "collector's". Otherwise I'll wait for the NA release.

That is not the same product. By comparison the digital download is exactly the same product. But gasoline might make a better example of fair market value.

If I ever find a link - like we used to purchase B/S last winter - then I'll buy the Russian version with no questions asked. 

If not, I'll wait for the U.S. version.

Great product - I miss playing it.

S~

Gunny

Oh, I guess I got off track. . .no gunny. . .I haven't come across a place to buy it.

Maybe they have a directed strategy for the U.S. release.....

I'll go with that for now :)

S~

Gunny