Rise of Flight & WWI Aerial Combat => WWI Flight Sim Announcements => Topic started by: TX-Gunslinger on August 02, 2009, 06:20:27 pm



Title: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: TX-Gunslinger on August 02, 2009, 06:20:27 pm
Thought you all might find this useful.  King had completed a similar chart before.

(https://webspace.utexas.edu/joem/ROF-releaseable/ROF-ROC1.jpg)


S~

Gunny


Title: Re: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: TX-Kingsnake on August 02, 2009, 06:31:17 pm
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Title: Re: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: TX-Kingsnake on August 02, 2009, 06:42:12 pm
Wait a sec. This is a bit misleading in that the ceilings are not correct. In the Gunnyshpere the ceiling makes a big difference. Trim the lines at the ceiling.  They must have changed the N17 time to climb because I had a very different looking line and yours looks more realistic. What we need now is a weighted rate of turn graph and we will have a sufficient compare chart for RoF.



Title: Re: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: TX-Gunslinger on August 02, 2009, 07:32:20 pm
Thanks for pointing out the N17 error King - replotting now.

S~

Gunny


Title: Re: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: TX-Kingsnake on August 03, 2009, 04:47:55 am
I'd like the excel file. I sat around trying to do that in excel like a caveman. I'm starting to wonder what happened to the higher functioning part of my brain. 


Title: Re: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: TX-Gunslinger on August 03, 2009, 09:43:22 am
King,

Here's the spreadsheet in it's current version:

https://webspace.utexas.edu/joem/ROF-releaseable/ROF%20Compare%21.xls (https://webspace.utexas.edu/joem/ROF-releaseable/ROF%20Compare%21.xls)

I had started a second chart (with sheets) to provide metric (versus imperial) calibration, however I did not finish it.  The first chart and "imperial" spreadsheets are completely functional.

Enjoy,

S~

Gunny


Title: Re: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: TX-Kingsnake on August 03, 2009, 05:03:32 pm
You are having the same problem I was having, the lines are extending beyond the plotted points. In this case it is the maximum service ceiling. Except you probably know how to fix that while I had to draft a graph. Nice work buddy. 


Title: Re: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: TX-Gunslinger on August 03, 2009, 05:20:31 pm
yeah - the "connect" lines to data points only give you the trends when there is enough data...

The way I did it was to invoke curve fitting routines built ino excel.  I found Polynomial to be the best fit for what I was looking for - i.e. reasonable extrapolation of existing points into areas where measurement was not available.

I wanted a good guess for the areas of "no data" in summary...

S~

Gunny


Title: Re: Rate of Climb in Rise-of-Flight - charted data
Post by: GOZR on August 03, 2009, 07:59:00 pm
lets do a spreadsheet about sound..  that could help the dev.. transfering Sound into graphic graph would be cool..