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Title: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-EcoDragon on September 10, 2009, 08:26:14 pm (http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1252272815k6EQGKewfA_6_3.gif)
Intel's Core i7 870 & i5 750, Lynnfield: Harder, Better, Faster Stronger: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634 (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3634) "X58 motherboards will only need a BIOS update to work with the 6-core 32nm Gulftown processor next year. P55 looks like it'll be limited to four cores and below." So that's good news for the X58 owners out there. . .as is the SLI capability. . .but beyond that, these P55 systems look pretty reasonable for mainstream users. The Core i7 860 has Turbo modes up to 3.46GHz without the user needing to do anything at all - it just shuts down unused cores and ramps up clock speeds. . .that's pretty cool for "normal PC users". These are selling now for 230 at microcenter, along with much cheaper motherboards than the X58. Of course when I read the article at Anandtech I can't help but think that the ability to run a 6 core CPU and an SLI setup on an X58 sounds pretty awesome - if not a bit over the top when it comes to $$. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0317378 (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0317378) The P55 mobos are also pretty reasonably priced too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=P7P55D&x=0&y=0 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=P7P55D&x=0&y=0) Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-EcoDragon on September 10, 2009, 08:41:05 pm Yeah. . .well you could build a i5 system on a P55 mobo for approx the same money as a p45 Q9550 machine - that's not so bad. . .but it sure does ramp up quickly after that.
Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-EcoDragon on September 11, 2009, 08:18:07 pm http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3623 (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3623)
Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Rahman on September 15, 2009, 04:09:25 pm I'm just watching to see if I can score a deal at MicroCenter on an E8500 or something. I found out my board doesn't support the quad 45nm chips, only the duals 45nm's. Winning the Lotto would be nice..lol.
So are these new chips contenders? I saw that they don't have the cache or something like the i7 920's or something... Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-EcoDragon on September 15, 2009, 04:32:38 pm Well Rah - I'm not sure there will be many deals on the 775 CPUs, I think retailers know that people who don't want to go to the new architecture will pay a premium to upgrade what they have. Remember how AGP video cards became really expensive after PCIe came out? eBay might have some deals - and of course there is always the TX marketplace.
I was at Frys a couple days ago and the E8400 is selling for 174.99, the E8500 is 184.99 and yet at Microcenter the i5 750 is 159.99! (Of course the i7 920 is only 199 there - they are taking a loss on both chips it seems in exchange for getting people into the store). If you want to get an E8400/E8500 just find a used one. A Q6600 or Q6700 will work in your mobo. . .or go whole hog and get a new mobo and DDR3 and go for the i5/i7. The 1366/X58 platform is the one to get if you want to run SLI, it's the one to get if you want to have the option to upgrade to the 6 core i7 lineup coming (I bet that's gonna be $$$$), the boards are feature rich, and the overclocking is solid. . .but there is a price premium. If you know you don't care about/can't afford SLI or the 6 core CPUs and don't need the ultimate overclock potential, the memory bandwidth, or the hyperthreading encoding performance then the i5 750 and a P55 board is gonna be fine, and will be faster than any 775 series Dual or QuadCore CPU. That anandtech article explains the details pretty well. Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Thunderbolt on September 15, 2009, 06:39:51 pm What socket mobo do you have Rah? Will it accept any quads?
Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Rahman on September 15, 2009, 09:06:50 pm I think only the 65nm Quads TB... Like Eco mentioned, Q6600, Q6700. I'll probably just wait... Cash is tight... Will wait till maybe tax time and upgrade.. :)
Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Thunderbolt on September 15, 2009, 10:26:35 pm Well, I had a Q6600 given to me yesterday. ???
The previous owner just upgraded to a Q9650 and said the Q6600 ran 3.6ghz with ease and probably had more in the tank. Interested? Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Rahman on September 16, 2009, 05:45:01 am Sure...2 more cores plus running it at 3.6... What ya want for it?
Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Thunderbolt on September 16, 2009, 08:16:01 am Sure...2 more cores plus running it at 3.6... What ya want for it? Your address... and a thank you? You may have to spring for a decent aftermarket cooling solution as I think it's coming with a stock HSF (it's coming in the mail from Alabama), but even the stock cooling solution should take to the 3 Ghz range. Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Rahman on September 16, 2009, 08:19:48 am wow are you sure?? :o I would definitely say THANKS!
Not to shoot myself in the foot also but based on the test in the coming days at my buddy's house in Dallas...Maybe that proc should be allocated to the server if we go that route.. ( I hate when I do that.... lol ) Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Thunderbolt on September 16, 2009, 08:35:33 am Honestly, it doesn't matter to me. I thought you would be able to better use it and the coincidence of getting a 65nm quad seems perfect. Nonetheless, I'll leave it to you to decide.
Personally, I'd say stick it in your machine, put a good cooler on it and let's see what happens on the other front. Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Rahman on September 16, 2009, 08:49:10 am TB,
I cannot thank you enough Sir. While I have seen some pretty good pricing on E8400's etc, money is literally so tight that I've had to pass them all by. That proc should bridge me until I can build a new machine probably next year sometime... sending you a PM... Thanks again! Lindle Rah Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-EcoDragon on September 16, 2009, 01:47:01 pm Bravo!!!!
But yes - you need a good cooler on those. . .the one you have should work OK, I doubt 3.6 will stay under 62C though 3.4 probably will. Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Rahman on September 24, 2009, 08:16:48 pm Update on the Q6600:
I received the Q6600 from TB tonight (Thanks man!)... Running it at stock clocks right now without any issues. I noticed that the temps are a bit higher than the E6600 but I expected that. Something I didn't expect... My system has been acting weird for over a month now....I now believe it was a failing/faulty memory module. My machine wouldn't post right every time. My mobo has a bios indicator on it... Started getting a long beep and it wouldn't get past post tonight. Of course I thought it was the proc, so I removed the fan, cleaned it up, put artic silver on again, secured the fan and still beeping. Looked up the code "C1" that was being displayed on the mobo and all articles said that it was a memory error. I pulled the sticks one by one until it posted... Then put the bad one in by itself to confirm it dead or not. Sure enough, have a bad stick.. Running on 1GB right now...Going to RMA it tomorrow.. Damn the luck.. :-\ Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-ScubaSteve on December 13, 2009, 05:57:33 pm Rah, I think I got the same motherboard and cpu as you have (or had)... back almost 3 years ago. The EVGA's nForce 680i with Intel's E6600 cpu.
I think my CPU blew a gasket last night. Over the last month, my computer has locked up on occasion when in a 3D game. Last night, the same thing happened, but when I booted up, my video post screen had scrambled characters, and colored vertical lines. I could still boot up... but then, eventually it froze in 20 minutes while running a virus scan. Now, I can only boot into safe mode. I've tried setting my bios settings to 'default', (to set my clock speeds and voltages back to normal) though with the scrambled screen, a hard feat to do. I did notice that a couple wires had gotten wedged between the blades of my heat sink, and had jambed the fan from spinning... I swapped out my video card with another to see if the video card was screwed up, but it did the same thing... so, I'm thinking with a dead fan, chances are my oc'd cpu got damaged. Anyway, I have little clue (other than what I tried understanding in the links Eco provided) as to the i5 and i7s... (seems like designation numbers change every time I start shopping for new computer components--and I can't keep up)... I looked up what cpu's my motherboard could handle on evga's site, and it only listed dual core processors... the most powerful being the E8600... but Rah, if you have the same MB as I do... perhaps I can go the quad core route? Then again, the I7 900 seems enticing... but that means getting another MB, new memory... if I went with that... would it render my 8800GTX gpu obsolete? Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Kingsnake on December 14, 2009, 02:40:39 am I have the 8800GTS 512 with a dual core CPU and this CPU meets the minimum requirements for most games but the card is something I could take to another system and run Rise of Flight, IL2 or ArmA 2 and it would be fine for now but nothing lasts long in computer years. Damn computer years are like dog years only worse, like mouse years.
Just wondering why your screen is garbled since that does sound like the card or the monitor. Good luck and I hope you have some hair left when you figure it out. Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-ScubaSteve on December 14, 2009, 10:36:31 am Yeah, my first thought was that my GPU was over-heating / dying... but I swapped it out with an ATI card I have, and it was doing the same thing. Also, I don't think it is a monitor issue, as it happens on all three of my monitors. (Unless it's just a very interesting coincidence--as I haven't hooked the monitors up to another computer--but even that wouldn't explain the lock-ups, and the fact I can't boot into windows anymore).
Anyway, I didn't mean to hijack this thread with my computer woes. Just curious about the new generation of cpus and Eco's post caught my eye. I'm almost considering just buying a pre-built system... though sometimes I feel guilty about dumping so much money on things that depreciate / age so rapidly. Title: Re: Intel Core i5 and i7 Post by: TX-Kingsnake on January 06, 2010, 01:14:47 pm http://paulisageek.com/compare/cpu/ (http://paulisageek.com/compare/cpu/)
is easier to view it on their web page Name Performance Price Performance / Price AMD Athlon 5000 Dual-Core 1376 65.99 20.9 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ 1374 73.99 18.6 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5400+ 1443 81.99 17.6 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5600+ 1472 50.99 28.9 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ 1577 53.99 29.2 AMD Athlon II X2 240 1601 58.99 27.1 AMD Athlon II X2 245 1679 62.00 27.1 AMD Athlon II X2 250 1663 67.00 24.8 AMD Athlon II X3 425 2366 76.00 31.1 AMD Athlon II X3 435 2416 87.00 27.8 AMD Athlon II X4 620 3079 99.00 31.1 AMD Athlon II X4 630 3282 112.99 29.1 AMD Athlon X2 240 1582 58.99 26.8 AMD Athlon X2 245 1566 62.00 25.3 AMD Athlon X2 250 1652 67.00 24.7 AMD Athlon X4 620 2794 99.00 28.2 AMD Athlon X4 630 2363 112.99 20.9 AMD Phenom 8250e Triple-Core 1535 75.99 20.2 AMD Phenom 8600B Triple-Core 1864 92.99 20.1 AMD Phenom 8750 Triple-Core 2000 87.00 23.0 AMD Phenom 9150e Quad-Core 2148 89.99 23.9 AMD Phenom 9350e Quad-Core 2296 109.99 20.9 AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core 2250 175.00 12.9 AMD Phenom 9650 Quad-Core 2596 119.99 21.6 AMD Phenom 9750 Quad-Core 2728 79.99 34.1 AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core 2865 89.99 31.8 AMD Phenom II X2 545 1722 98.98 17.4 AMD Phenom II X2 550 1832 99.00 18.5 AMD Phenom II X3 705e 2324 134.99 17.2 AMD Phenom II X3 720 2524 140.99 17.9 AMD Phenom II X4 810 3019 139.99 21.6 AMD Phenom II X4 905e 2789 184.99 15.1 AMD Phenom II X4 925 3368 140.99 23.9 AMD Phenom II X4 940 3557 166.97 21.3 AMD Phenom II X4 945 3403 165.99 20.5 AMD Phenom II X4 955 3767 175.99 21.4 AMD Phenom II X4 965 4194 185.00 22.7 AMD Sempron 140 913 35.99 25.4 AMD Sempron 2200+ 319 51.98 6.1 AMD Sempron LE-1250 550 31.99 17.2 AMD Sempron LE-1300 582 45.99 12.7 Dual-Core AMD Opteron 1216 1169 55.99 20.9 Dual-Core AMD Opteron 1218 1094 65.99 16.6 Dual-Core AMD Opteron 1220 1443 85.99 16.8 Intel 800MHz 132 45.99 2.9 Intel Celeron 430 @ 1.80GHz 530 39.99 13.3 Intel Celeron E1500 @ 2.20GHz 1216 49.99 24.3 Intel Celeron E1600 @ 2.40GHz 1007 61.99 16.2 Intel Celeron E3200 @ 2.40GHz 1515 52.99 28.6 Intel Celeron E3300 @ 2.50GHz 1668 62.99 26.5 Intel Core i5 750 @ 2.67GHz 4189 194.99 21.5 Intel Core i7 720QM @ 1.60GHz 3354 379.99 8.8 Intel Core i7 860 @ 2.80GHz 5563 279.99 19.9 Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz 6135 539.99 11.4 Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz 5452 288.99 18.9 Intel Core i7 940 @ 2.93GHz 6115 499.99 12.2 Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz 6298 569.99 11.1 Intel Core i7 960 @ 3.20GHz 6530 574.99 11.4 Intel Core i7 975 @ 3.33GHz 6927 969.99 7.1 Intel Core2 Duo E7400 @ 2.80GHz 1863 117.99 15.8 Intel Core2 Duo E7500 @ 2.93GHz 1946 119.99 16.2 Intel Core2 Duo E7600 @ 3.06GHz 2010 144.99 13.9 Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz 2164 167.99 12.9 Intel Core2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz 2308 189.99 12.2 Intel Core2 Duo E8600 @ 3.33GHz 2471 279.99 8.8 Intel Core2 Duo P8400 @ 2.26GHz 1513 214.99 7.0 Intel Core2 Duo P8600 @ 2.40GHz 1592 219.99 7.2 Intel Core2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53GHz 1760 219.99 8.0 Intel Core2 Duo P8800 @ 2.66GHz 1923 249.99 7.7 Intel Core2 Duo P9500 @ 2.53GHz 1758 369.99 4.8 Intel Core2 Duo T7500 @ 2.20GHz 1240 249.99 5.0 Intel Core2 Duo T9400 @ 2.53GHz 1710 335.98 5.1 Intel Core2 Duo T9550 @ 2.66GHz 1903 319.99 6.0 Intel Core2 Duo T9600 @ 2.80GHz 1987 339.99 5.8 Intel Core2 Quad Q8200 @ 2.33GHz 3220 148.99 21.6 Intel Core2 Quad Q8300 @ 2.50GHz 3553 159.99 22.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 3598 167.99 21.4 Intel Core2 Quad Q9000 @ 2.00GHz 2988 364.99 8.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 @ 2.66GHz 3684 189.99 19.4 Intel Core2 Quad Q9505 @ 2.83GHz 3810 229.99 16.6 Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz 4177 259.99 16.1 Intel Core2 Quad Q9650 @ 3.00GHz 4456 324.99 13.7 Intel Xeon 2.66GHz 402 288.99 1.4 Intel Xeon 3.06GHz 493 144.99 3.4 Intel Xeon E3110 @ 3.00GHz 2269 179.99 12.6 Intel Xeon E5405 @ 2.00GHz 2983 229.99 13.0 Intel Xeon E5410 @ 2.33GHz 3750 289.99 12.9 Intel Xeon E5420 @ 2.50GHz 3733 349.99 10.7 Intel Xeon E5430 @ 2.66GHz 4485 499.99 9.0 Intel Xeon E5440 @ 2.83GHz 4589 739.99 6.2 Intel Xeon E5450 @ 3.00GHz 4583 986.99 4.6 Intel Xeon E5502 @ 1.87GHz 1602 199.99 8.0 Intel Xeon E5504 @ 2.00GHz 3139 239.99 13.1 Intel Xeon E5506 @ 2.13GHz 3507 269.99 13.0 Intel Xeon E5520 @ 2.27GHz 3960 384.99 10.3 Intel Xeon E5530 @ 2.40GHz 4290 569.99 7.5 Intel Xeon E5540 @ 2.53GHz 4467 779.99 5.7 Intel Xeon W3520 @ 2.67GHz 4743 309.99 15.3 Intel Xeon W3570 @ 3.20GHz 7166 1069.99 6.7 Intel Xeon W5580 @ 3.20GHz 6293 1679.99 3.8 Intel Xeon W5590 @ 3.33GHz 8597 1689.99 5.1 Intel Xeon X3220 @ 2.40GHz 2961 199.99 14.8 Intel Xeon X3230 @ 2.66GHz 3755 289.99 13.0 Intel Xeon X3360 @ 2.83GHz 4277 299.99 14.3 Intel Xeon X3370 @ 3.00GHz 4629 349.99 13.2 Intel Xeon X5450 @ 3.00GHz 4409 939.99 4.7 Intel Xeon X5460 @ 3.16GHz 5008 1249.99 4.0 Intel Xeon X5550 @ 2.67GHz 4424 999.99 4.4 Intel Xeon X5560 @ 2.80GHz 4900 1249.99 3.9 Intel Xeon X5570 @ 2.93GHz 5390 1439.99 3.7 Pentium Dual-Core E5200 @ 2.50GHz 1631 64.50 25.3 Pentium Dual-Core E5300 @ 2.60GHz 1705 69.99 24.4 Pentium Dual-Core E5400 @ 2.70GHz 1751 89.99 19.5 Pentium Dual-Core E6300 @ 2.80GHz 1859 80.99 23.0 Pentium Dual-Core E6500 @ 2.93GHz 2042 94.99 21.5 Quad-Core AMD Opteron 2378 3189 188.49 16.9 |