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« on: July 27, 2004, 06:43:30 pm »

...I remember TX-Gunslinger commenting on this the other night, but was wondering if the sluggish rudder is affecting all planes other than the 190 or is it just the 190's? I was chatting with CAPT_COTTON (who is from Houston) on UBI this afternoon and he was having the same observation with other planes as well. Anyone know what part of the joystick config to fool with in order to gain more rudder response without jacking with the other settings such as aelerons(sp)?




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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2004, 08:28:53 pm »

Cuda,The net end result was that the change really was'nt all that significant.The rudder does'nt move the airplane quite as far, but the difference is maybe a few degrees.Where I notice the effect the most is in QMB while going head-to-head with enemy A/C.  In a closing situation with a 190 A series I typically try to hit the guy at about 500-700 meters, and if that does'nt work I'll swing the airplane to the left or right with hard rudder to get bullets out in front of him.I noticed first thing after the patch that I can't swing the plane out quite as far as I used to.All other observations made by me were incorrect, and were corrected with a simple manual calibration (vice windows auto-calibrate) of my joystick....Sorry If I caused any confusion
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2004, 08:33:57 pm »

...understood Gunslinger completely. What did you change manually to get the rudder to swing like it used to is my question.TX-Cuda"If my plane is smoking it can mean two things... I have been hit and my engine is losing power...OR I am working on a new BBQ Pit and have it smoking just right!"
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2004, 11:06:52 pm »

***EDITED*****NEW INFORMATIONCuda try these joystick settings if you don't already have them...1. Open your config.ini file with Notepad within the IL2 Stumovik Forgotten Battles directory:2. Scroll down in the file until you find the section which says:[rts_joystick]X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0<---------------elevator trim (slider)Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0<---------------elevator (Joystick Axis)Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100<-------------power (slider)RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0<---------Rudder (pedals or twist)FF=0 <-------------------------------------------------Force Feedback on/offU=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0<-----------Prop Pitch (slider)V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 01X=0 1 3 6 12 21 32 44 61 81 100 0 <------------ roll 1Y=0 1 4 8 15 24 33 44 60 77 100 0 <------------ pitch1RZ=0 0 10 19 32 43 54 63 74 86 100 0 <-------- yaw1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 01V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 03. Compare your settings to these.  If they don't match, cut and paste this line in as a replacement....I think you'll like them just fine...they are Oleg's settings for his Cougar and are very very good for Focke Wulf.4. I have a Cougar and CH-Pro rudder pedals and this works for me....***Note....remove the <------ labels and arrows from the catagoriesI hope this helps.....***Sorry I did'nt answer this better the first time......I have yet to get the swing I used to have...I have not found the solution...but when I get time I will try to manipulate the YAW Axis values, but don't think it will work....To get greater deflection you'd have to be able to increase past 100 and I don't think that's possible...but I'll try it to see what happens (either nothing or it will crash the game)
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2004, 03:36:40 am »

Ok.....I want everyone to understand something....even with the marginally different rudder throw.....I LOVE THE NEW V2.04 PATCHED FW-190!THE A4/A5/A6/A8/A9 and particularly the D9.  Whatever the changes were, I'm used to them.The rudder thing is a slight change.   Here is a bigger thing: Better fuel economy......I'm flying longer on the same amount of gas unless you get hit and develop a fuel leak.Some A series guidelines that I've recently learned that are working well for me:PROPELLER PITCH SETTINGSClimbing - 90% speeds in excess of 320 kph               100% speeds less than 320 kphLevel -      80% max acceleration                70-75% combat cruiseDiving -     80% to 500 kph                70%     500 - 600 kph                60%     600 - 800 kph                50%     800 kph plus (yeah you can do that just don't yank real hard)               Note: #1 cause of dead engine in Dora is propeller overspeed in dive....be very carefull, it's a little 109 like in this regard (in-line).  Auto on all the time is better than dead engine.Anton's accelerate like rockets above 350 kmh, below about that speed, they are very sluggish (unless you dive) in acceleration......Emergency Power for Take Off while being vulched                 100% till 400 kmh then 90% after thatBy the way, I tried an anti-vulch take off last nite in the middle of a very bad group of vulchers.  It worked like a charm and I killed a P39 in the process....ask Copper or Rex.I grabbed and A5, stripped the outer guns off (MG-FF, yeah I know it's counter intuitive, but just try it) lowered the convergence to 200 on both MG and Cannon, then:1) KEEP RADIATOR CLOSED2) PROP PITCH TO 100% -WEP ON - THROTTLE MAX3) ROLL DOWN RUNWAY ( PREFERABLY THE LONG WAY Smiley ) 4) LIFT OFF VERY GENTLY AT 270 KPH (IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH RUNWAY)5) GET THE GEAR UP AND BUILD UP SPEED 6) WHEN IAS ABOVE 400 (won't take long) CLIMB, GENTLY TURN,7) THEN DIVE ON THE NEAREST BUZZARD AND BLOW HIM TO KINGDOM COMEAnother cool thing Razor and I did last nite was to take A5's with 1 centerline drop tank and 50% fuel.  We timed how long the centerline tank takes to empty...guess what....30 mins......Anyway maybe everyone knows this stuff, but I did'nt until recently and it's mad my flying better.....Oh yeah, last "suggestion".....don't take MK108's unless your going after bombers.........Yeah, the explosions are pretty and the temptation is great but the difference in handling is significant.Even more, drop the outer wing guns.........your 190 will handle like a Ferrari.  I out-turned a P39 last nite for a little while before I followed him in a dive and killed him.........
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2004, 09:42:08 am »

....thanks for the info Gunslinger. I'll try some of these out first chance I get...TX-Cuda"If my plane is smoking it can mean two things... I have been hit and my engine is losing power...OR I am working on a new BBQ Pit and have it smoking just right!"
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