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« on: October 14, 2003, 02:36:47 am »

While viewing these try to think of where these images were captured, and then assign the appropriate caption radio call to each image, answers to follow shortly (the first one has a fill in the blank statement to get you on the right start):



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Image #3  (may have same caption as #2, this is just little different, and from another angle)


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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2003, 07:51:18 pm »

Looks Like you flying over Sanfrancisco?S~TX-FlightRisk Black 3
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2003, 08:03:26 pm »

try again. . .here is a hint, This flight originated at an Airport named Gumrak.;-)S!TX-EcoDragonBlack 1TX Squadron XO
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2003, 08:11:34 pm »

Volgograd or Stalingrad Russia??? HmmmS~TX-FlightRisk Black 3
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2003, 08:27:07 pm »

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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2003, 10:41:53 pm »

Black1 wheels up in an EF 2000 ?Over Stalingrad ? Wow , 61 yrs too late too , damned charts.. heheS~Cya up there...TX-ShadowWhite 3
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2003, 11:33:20 pm »

What ? You guys don't even recognize the LA 7 after that last patch?TX-ChukarBlue 1
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2003, 12:23:24 am »

Well. . .it looks like the general vicinity has been pinned downok . . . I guess it is answer time!#1Black 1 Wheels Up North Blue #2 Black1 orbitting Checkpoint 2 Angels 4 (with west red in the back ground)(#3 Checkpoint two with Checkpoint 1 and Stalingrad in the background)I was working on a project, and decided to fly around the world in the eurofighter. I departed 0O5 (university) direct to PHNL (Honolulu) for fuel, then to Narita Japan, and from there to Novosibirsk,  I over flew Anapa, and it struck me that I was loking at IL-2 country!  then I started to wonder what our other IL-2/FB stomping grounds look like in FS2004. . .so I set out searching. Most names have changed so it is tough to find them other than by just flying around or trying every airport.S!TX-EcoDragonBlack 1TX Squadron XO
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2003, 06:38:34 am »

This has some neat Gumrak fact in it.
 
                 
         
         

Airlift January 1943

To supply Sixth Army with 300 tons aday, the absolute minimum amount demandedby the army
(which really needed 500 tons) would necessitatean average of 150 fully laden Ju 52s landingin 
the pocket each day. (500 tons an averageof 250 Ju 52s landing in the pocket, including loading,
unloading, losses, etc.  it would mean they needed 800 Ju 52sto realize the 500 tons each day.)

Of the six airfield inside the Stalingrad pocket, only Pitomnik wasproperly equiped to handle
large-scale operations. It even had lights, flare paths and signalequipments for night operations.

This is not complete, I tried to add as much info as I found. If someonethinks he can help me,
please let me know. 

Ju 52 = Junker 52
He 111 = Heinkel 111
 

                   
Date      

 

     

Number      and type

     

of      airplanes flown in

     

 

Supply flown in      

 

Kind of supply      

 

1st 
Friday
? Ju 52 +  ? He 111
120 planes
230 tons
.
Ammo / Food
Medical supply
.
2nd 
Saturday
No flights
.
0 ton
.
No supply
.
.
3rd 
Sunday
? Ju 52 +  ? He 111
About 120 planes
250 ton 
.
Ammo / Food
Medical supply
.
4th
Monday
.
.
.
.
Fuel / Ammo 
Medical supply 
.
5th
Thuesday
21 He 111
.
40 tons 
.
Ammo / Fuel
Medical supply 
Too cold for the Junkers to start
 
6th
Wednesday
Fuel / Ammo 
Medical supply 
.
7th
Thursday
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
.
Friday 8th, 12.00 noon ?Ju 52 + ? He 111  Ammo / Fuel
until Saturday 9th 12.00 ? Ju 52 + ? He 111 220 tonsMedical supply 
For the first time a FW 200 'Condor' plane landedin the pocket. 7 of them arrived and took
156 wounded out of the pocket. The 7 FW 200 flew22.5 tons of medical supply, 5 tons fuel
9 tons of ammo in the pocket.
.
10th
Sunday
Fuel / Ammo 
Medical supply 
For the first time a Junker 290 plane landed in thepocket. 78 wounded flew out with it.
A Junker 290 plane carried 10 tons of supply.
.
11th
Monday
No flights
.
0 ton
.
No supply
.
.
12th
Thuesday
Fuel / Ammo 
Medical supply 
.
13th
Wednesday
No flights
.
0 tons
.
No supply
.
.
Wednesday 13th - 14th
Thursday (at night)
45 Junker 52 
41 He 111 + ? Ju 290
160 ton
.
Ammo / Fuel
Medical supply 
A Ju 290 with 80 wounded on board crashed secondsafter the take-off. Only one survided.
NCO Alfred Lutz. The pilot who flew the planenamed Häning.
 
14th
Thursday
No flights
.
0 tons
.
No supply
.
.
15th
Friday
Fuel / Ammo 
Medical supply
.
16th 
Saturday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111 
About 39 planes
68.5 tons
.
Ammo / Fuel
Medical supply 
Pitomnik airstrip overran by the Soviet forces. Gumrakairstrip is now in use.
Until today + 20.000 wounded or sick soldierswere evacuated out of the Stalingrad pocket. 

NOTE :
Between the first of January 1943 and January16th, 1943, 2325  tons of supply arrived.
An average of 145 tons a day.
17th 
Sunday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111
About 45 planes 
About 82 tons
Flown in and dropped
28 t ammo / 48 t med. Food / 4.65m3 fuel
The first planes landed on Gumrak airstrip.
.
18th
Monday
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
.
19th
Thuesday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111
About 40 planes 
32 tons flown in
30 tons dropped 
Fuel / Ammo 
Medical supply 
.
20th
Wednesday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111
57 planes - 25 landed
52.2 tons
Flown in and dropped
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
.
21st 
Thursday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111
100 planes 
About 200 tons
.
Fuel / Ammo 
Medical supply 
Soviet forces pressed in on Gumrak airstrip at night.The airfield is no longer available for the air-lift.
.
22nd
Friday
?
?
?
DROPPED 
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
The last available airstrip 'Stalingradski' is operational,6 planes are crashing on the strip trying
to land.
.
.
23rd
Saturday
?
?
?
DROPPED 
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
Fall of  Gumrak and Stalingradski airstrip.No airstrips available anymore. 
From now on the supply needs to be dropped.
.
24th 
Sunday
3 Ju 52 + 4 He 111 
1 FW 190 / 8 planes
12.5 tons
DROPPED
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
Fog. Planes flew very low. About 50 meter above ground.
.
25th 
Monday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111 
7 planes
13 tons
DROPPED 
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
8 planes take-off.  -20 degrees Celcius 
.
26th 
Thuesday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111 
52 planes
46.3 tons
DROPPED
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
The 6th Army pocket is cut in two. The southern partis twice as big as the northern. Droppings 
above the two pockets.
27th
Wednesday
57 Ju 52 + 50 He 111 +
5 FW 200 
103 tons
DROPPED
Ammo 28 tons
Medical supply 75 tons
Droppings above the two pockets. 
28th
Thursday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111 
87 planes
83.1 ton
DROPPED
Ammo 
Medical supply 
The southern pocket is cut in two. Droppings abovethe 3 German pockets at Stalingrad. 

NOTE :
Between January, 17th and January, 28th, 790tons of supply was flown in or dropped.
An average of 60.75 tons a day.
 
29th
Friday  

Friday, 29th + 
Saterday, 30th (at night)

? Ju 52 + ? He 111 
109 planes   

? Ju 52 + ? He 111 
+ ? He 177 / 124 planes

108.8 tons
DROPPED  

130 tons
DROPPED

Food / Ammo
Medical supply  

Food / Ammo
Medical supply

Major General Pickert of the 9th Flak Division isdismissed by Milch. Droppings above the
3 German pockets at Stalingrad. 125 planes take-off.(day) 151 planes take-off. (at night)
30th 
Saturday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111 
+ ? He 177 / 85 planes
118 tons
DROPPED
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
Droppings above the 3 German pockets at Stalingrad.89 planes take-off. (at night)
31st 
Sunday
? Ju 52 + ? He 111 
89 planes
72 tons
DROPPED
Food / Ammo
Medical supply
Southern and the center pockets surrenders to theRussians. Droppings only above the northern
pocket. 109 planes take-off but only 89 are ableto reach the droppping zone. (at night)

Notes : 
-Several pilots / planes flew twice a day.
 

Sources : Books

Stopped at Stalingrad - Hayward
Luftbrücke Stalingrad - Franz Kurowski
The battle for Stalingrad - Rotundo (The 1943 Soviet General StaffStudy)

       
       

 

 
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