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« on: January 09, 2004, 04:31:47 pm »

With 2 20mm in the wingroots like the Dora and a MK108 in the nose like the K4, this plane is going rock.

Even better than the K4, the TA will have about 10-12 seconds firing time for the MK108.  Smiley


(Febuary is not going to get here fast enough for me dammit)





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The Focke-Wulf Ta 152

As the war was coming to an end for Germany and the plight of the Japanese armed forces grew ever bleaker, a very large influx of the latest aviation technology Germany had to offer was given to or bought by the Japanese air forces in the hopes that it would stem the tide of defeats and ever increasing pressure to put up superior aircraft to battle the newest airplanes the allies were putting into the field. One such German aircraft was the Focke-Wulf Ta 152, whose blueprints were purchased by the Japanese in April of 1945.

The development of the Ta 152 ( the Ta stood for Kurt Tank, the designer of this aircraft ) came about as the Luftwaffe saw the threat of high-altitude bombers and reconnaissance aircraft which could be fielded by the allies and which would prove difficult, if not impossible, by current Luftwaffe interceptors to engage. Thus, even before high-flying allied bombers began operations over Europe, the German aviation industry was hard at work exploring pressurized cockpits and cabins, turbo-superchargers, and other means to enhance engine performance at high altitude. Focke-Wulf was one of the major players who put great effort into these studies. Work began using the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 ( the B, C, and D models ), generating various schemes using pressure cabins, different engine types, and injection/supercharger methods. The work with the Fw 190B model proved fruitless and was dropped while the Fw 190C work proved much more successful but it was the Fw 190D which would provide the basis for the Ta 152 series.

As the Boeing B-17 "Flying Fortress" began appearing in the skies and provided the Luftwaffe with intercept difficulties, German intelligence learned of the even more superior Boeing B-29 "Superfortress" and, even though the B-29 was never deployed to the European combat theatre, it proved a motivator to the Luftwaffe to come up with an answer for it. Both Focke-Wulf and Messerschmitt were asked to put forth proposals. Focke-Wulf offered the Fw 190 Ra-2 and Fw 190 Ra-3 while Messerschmitt put forth the Me 109H series. In the end, the Me 109H became a loser to the soon-to-be called Ta 152. Because Kurt Tank was a very influential and respected designer, aircraft which left his design boards would have the "Ta" prefix applied instead of the "Fw" prefix for Focke-Wulf. Such was Tank's sway that he was able to go around the usual aircraft naming scheme and his two models, the Ra-2 and the Ra-3, became the Ta 152B and the Ta 152H respectively. The basis of the Ta 152 was the Fw 190D airframe and throughout the life of the aircraft's evolution, various styles of wing, engine, weapon, and other changes were made to it. Common features included a pressure cabin for the pilot, provision for the GM 1 ( nitrous oxide injection ) kit or the MW50 ( methanol-water injection ) kit, hydraulic flap and undercarriage actuation, lengthened fuselage for increased internal capacity, enlarged tail surfaces, and a moved cockpit area to maintain the center of gravity.

While there were many sub-types of the Ta 152, only the Ta 152H series will be discussed. My reasoning is that, while it is not known which model or models of the Ta 152 the Japanese purchased plans for, I would wager it was the H series. This was the high-altitude type, unlike the B and C models which were medium altitude aircraft and designated fighter-bombers as well as fighters. Because the Japanese were the only axis power to feel the effects and have to contend with engaging the B-29 in combat, it would seem logical that the ultimate German fighter which could battle at that height be desired. I recommend Dietmar Harmann's Focke-Wulf Ta 152:The Story of the Luftwaffe's Late-War, High-Altitude Fighter from Schiffer Books for the complete story of the Ta 152 developments and deployment. Because the Ta 152 was never built in Japan nor, for what is known, anything done with the plans they purchased, let alone if they even made it to Japan, I will only be glossing over the evolution of the Ta 152H series to give a foundation as to why the Japanese would have shown interest in it.

As noted above, many Fw 190 aircraft participated in the development of the Ta 152, testing powerplants, injection methods, and different aerodynamic properties. The Ta 153, a testbed aircraft originally called the Fw 190 Ra-4D, was the plane which initially tested the long-spanned wing which would be used in the Ta 152H. This wing featured a very simple manufacturing process and offered a much greater internal volume for fuel as well as being a marked improvement over other wing ideas for the Ta 152. So much so was this wing desired that it was standardized for the Ta 152 series, in part as it offered the potential to better handle the North American P-51 "Mustang". Work began on pre-production Ta 152H-0 at Sorau while the assembly line for production Ta 152H aircraft was readied at Cottbus. The first Ta 152H, the Ta 152H V1 and the second, V2, were completed in June and July of 1944 and the former sent to Langenhagen for testing, the other to Rechlin for official evaluation beginning in August. The first Ta 152 series aircraft left the production line at Cottbus was a batch of 20 pre-production Ta 152H-0s which were delivered in October and November of 1944 to Erprobungskommando Ta 152, commanded by Hauptmann Bruno Stolle and based at Rechlin, which would service test the airplane. At the close of November, the Ta 152H-1 began to roll off the lines, 34 being completed by year's end. It was not until January 27, 1945 did the first Ta 152 H models begin to trickle into Luftwaffe service, production being severely hampered by the rapid advance of the Soviets who ultimatly overran the Cottbus facility.

Both the Ta 152H-0 and Ta 152H-1 were similar, the former having no wing tankage. Both used the Jumo 213E-1 engine, had an engine mounted 30mm MK 108 cannon, a 20mm MK 151 cannon in each wing root ( Revi 16b gunsight used, later to have the EZ 42 aiming system with automatic lead computing installed ), 330lbs. of armor protection for the engine and pilot, FuG 16ZY and FuG 25a radio equipment, and later Ta 152s were fitted with Rustsatze ( field conversion kits ) in the factory with FuG 125 Hermine D/F for navigation and blind landing, LGW-Siemens K 23 autopilot, and a heated armorglass windscreen for bad-weather operations. The pilot's cockpit was pressurized, the rivets around the cockpit skinning being sealed with DHK 8800 paste, the sliding canopy hood sealed via a circular tube filled with foam rubber which was inflated by a compressed air bottle, while the engine compartment was also sealed with a foam rubber ring. A Knorr 300/10 air compressor provided the pressure, maintaining the cockpit pressure at .36 atmospheres above 8,000 meters. To prevent fogging, the windscreen was of a double-pane style with an 8mm thick outer pane and a 3mm inner pane with a 6mm gap between the two with Silicagel capsules, eight in all. The MW 50 injection system was standard with the GM 1 method planned for future incorporation. Total tankage of fuel was 595 liters for the H-0 model with the option of a 300 liter, underbelly drop tank. The H-1 model had even more fuel in six unprotected bag tanks in the wings, totalling 470 liters, of which one of the tanks served as the MW 50 injection tank. The H-1 could use the 300 liter droptank as well as a 600 liter droptank. Weapon fits, in addition to the above, could include unguided rockets, such as the R4M, mounted under the wings. Free-fall bombs, however, could not be used given the mission of the Ta 152H series.

The pilots who flew the Ta 152 H in battle were very pleased with it. The aircraft was well able to battle the P-51D "Mustang" as well as the British Hawker "Tempest", several of these allied aircraft falling to the guns of the Ta 152. Despite the fact the Ta 152 H was ment to combat high-altitude allied bombers, almost no missions of this type were flown by those units who operated the aircraft ( notably, III/JG 301 and Stab JG 301 ). The first mission undertaken by III/JG 301 on March 2, 1945 was to intercept U.S. bombers heading for the Bohlen chemical plant near Leuna. It ended when pilots of a group of Messerschmitt BF 109s mistook the new German aircraft for the enemy and engaged them. No losses were incured and the superior climbing and agility of the Ta 152 H allowed them to evade all of the "attackers". Following this, most of III/JG 301 was involved with battling allied fighters, not bombers...the final victims of the Ta 152s guns being Russian Yakolev Yak-9s during the final days of battle around Berlin on April 30, 1945.

That the Japanese sought to purchase, and did so, the technology of the Ta 152, was logical in the sense that it was they who had to battle the B-29. It was folly, however, to think that Germany could ship anything other than paper plans to Japan and even then, the chances of the plans making it to Japan were quite slim. And even if the Japanese were able have the blueprints in hand ( I say this since it was not known if, following the purchase, if the schematics and detailed plans were even shipped ), the ability to produce the aircraft was not very likely given the situation already at hand with the Japanese aviation industry and the state it was in. This is not to say that local adaptations would not have occured and would very likely have been the case so had the Japanese built the Ta 152, it might have looked remarkably the same or it may looked similar, but not 100% true to the design. The aircraft, however, would have provided the Japanese with a superior high-altitude fighter, far superior to those they had in the design stage or currently with operational units. The Kawasaki Ki-108, a twin-engined, single-seat high-altitude fighter in the development stage from 1944-1945, could muster only 373mph at 32,810ft. The Mitsuibishi Ki-83 program, another twin-engined design, would have faired better had it made it into production, able to produce a maximum speed of 438mph at 29,530ft. As it was, bombing attacks by the very same planes it was ment to stop disrupted testing to the point that only four prototypes were ever built. Inherently, twin-engined designs cause a reduction in performance due to the higher weights and drag induced by having two engines ( in the case of the Ki-108 and Ki-83, the engines were mounted conventionally on the wing ) thus, the Nakajima Ki-87 sought to use a single engine to achieve a projected top speed of 439mph at 36,090ft. which was better in terms of material usage when compared to the Ki-83 and matched the latter's performance. However, the Ki-87 was tormented with problems, notably the engine and the turbosupercharger and the special landing gear arrangment ( forced upon the designers who had to load the wings with weapon fits and tankage ). Only one was built and though handling was deemed good, top performance was never measured, in part due to the fact that the landing gear was never retracted, lest it fail and cause damage to the aircraft. In all cases, even the Tachikawa Ki-94 on exhibit in this site, did not lead to an aircraft deployed to combat units nor did they lead to any aircraft of a similar mission which could match the performance of the Ta 152. Hence, Japan again sought German aid to quickly provide a solution to a problem...but the solution was much too late to save the nation of Japan from the ravaging of the B-29s.


Specification Table for the Focke-Wulf Ta 152H-1 Type High-altitude fighter
Crew One
Powerplant Junkers Jumo 213E-1 12-cylinder, liquid-cooled engine rated at 1,750hp
at take-off ( 2,050hp with MW 50 ) and 1,320hp at 32,800ft. ( 1,740hp
with GM 1 )
Armaments One 30mm, engine-mounted MK 108 cannon with 90 rounds of ammo,
two 20mm, wing-mounted MG 151 cannon with 175 rounds per gun
Speed:  
Maximum speed 332mph at sea level ( 350mph with MW 50 ), 465mph at 29,530ft. ( with
MW 50 ), 472mph at 41,010ft. ( with GM 1 ), 311mph cruising speed
at 22,965ft.
Range 755 miles to 1,250 miles depending on speed and external tankage
Climb 3,445ft. per minute with MW 50 injection
Ceiling 48,550ft. with GM 1 injection
Dimensions:  
Span 47ft. 4 1/2in.
Length 35ft. 1 2/3in.
Height 11ft. 1/4in.
Wing Area 250.8 sq. ft.
Weights:  
Empty 8,642lbs.
Loaded 11,502lbs.
Deployed? Yes



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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2004, 05:02:00 pm »

Very interesting read Black 6...I too will be looking forward to Feb.   ;-)TX-Cage  Black 5    ... end ...
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2004, 05:24:33 pm »

Focke-Wulf Ta 152Kurt Tank's finestAs promised, here is the follow-on to the Fw 190D story --- Kurt Tank's own Ta 152. Before the end of 1940, the Focke-Wulf design bureau headed by Dipl.-Ing. Kurt Tank had initiated work on variants of the Fw 190 intended to improve its high-altitude performance. Three alternative proposals were considered, designated Fw 190B, C, and D. The Fw 190B was basically similar to the Fw 190A, but was to be powered by a BMW 801 radial boosted by nitrous-oxide (GM 1) injection pending the availability of an exhaust-driven turbosupercharger. A pressure cabin was to be fitted, and the wing area was to be increased. The Fw 190C was basically similar to the B but was to be powered by the Daimler Benz DB 603 liquid-cooled engine using either a mechanically-driven supercharger operating in conjunction with nitrous oxide injection or a turbosupercharger. The Fw 190D was powered by the Jumo 213. The Fw 190B and C both ran into an extensive series of teething problems, and, in the event, never entered production. Priority was therefore given to the Fw 190D even though Tank felt that that the DB 603 was a better high-altitude engine than the Jumo 213 and had greater development potential. The result was the superb "Dora" version of the Fw 190, which was described in a previous post. When Germany declared war on the USA, the Luftwaffe had initially assumed that the Americans would give the war in the Pacific their first priority, and had not worried too much about high-altitude bombing raids from B-17 bombers. However, by the autumn of 1942, it became readily apparent that the USAAF was planning a full-scale massive bombing campaign against Germany from its bases in the UK, and that the Luftwaffe would soon require fighters with better high-altitude performances to face the threat from American bombers. By that time, the Luftwaffe was also aware of the existence of the B-29, and they were also aware that the existing Fw 190 would be incapable of effectively intercepting this American bomber at the altitudes at which it was supposedly capable of operating. Consequently, Dipl.-Ing Kurt Tank undertook the development of of a Hochleistungsjäger, or High-performance Fighter, offering a much improved combat ceiling. The Luftwaffe envisaged a two-phase program for the production of its new high-altitude fighter. The first phase would produce an aircraft based to the extent possible on an existing production airframe. The second phase would design a fighter from the ground up specifically for the high-altitude role. To meet the requirements of the first phase, Focke-Wulf proposed the Fw 190 Ra-2 and Ra-3 designs, both based on the Fw 190D. These two proposals were basically similar, differing from each other principally in wing span and armament, the Ra-2 having a standard Fw 190D wing and the Ra-3 having extended wing outer panels giving a wing with a rather high aspect ratio. The engine was to be a Jumo 213E with a a three-speed two-stage supercharger and induction cooler which offered superior high-altitude performance over the Jumo 213A. Both designs had a pressure cabin and provision for both nitrous oxide (GM 1) and methanol-water (MW50) injection. The fuselage was common to both models, and was lengthened to provide increased internal capacity. The cockpit was moved sixteen inches further aft in relation to the wing attachment points in order to balance the center of gravity. Vertical tail surfaces were enlarged, and both aircraft had a 30-mm engine-mounted cannon and a pair of 20-mm MG 151 cannon in the wing roots, however the Ra-2 was to have an additional pair of MG 151s in the upper deck of the forward fuselage. The requirements of the second phase were to be met by the Fw 190 Ra-4D. Although it was based broadly on the Fw 190, the Ra-4D embodied a complete structural redesign and numerous aerodynamic refinements. It was from the start to use a turbosupercharged Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, the engine which Kurt Tank had preferred all along. Dipl.-Ing Kurt Tank had by this time obtained almost legendary status as a result of his successful aircraft designs, and the RLM decided to honor him by using the prefix "Ta" instead of "Fw" for aircraft coming out of his design bureau. Since the Ra-2 and Ra-3 were considered sufficiently different from their predecessors to deserve a new designation, they were the first to receive the new "Ta" prefix. They were both redesignated Ta 152 by the end of 1942. Logic would seem to dictate that the Ra-2 and Ra-3 be designated Ta 152H and K, since they followed on directly from the Fw 190F and G (I and J were not used as suffixes). However, Tank had a different idea. He proposed that the short-span Ra-2 be designated Ta 152B, where the B stood for Begeleitjäger or Escort Fighter, and the long-span Ra-3 be designated Ta 152H, where the H stood for Hohenjäger or High-Altitude Fighter. Such was the prestige of Kurt Tank that he immediately got his way. The Ra-4D was assigned the designation Ta 153. Although Tank was pressing the Luftwaffe to allocate production priority to the Ta 152, the authorities were reluctant to disrupt existing assembly lines for the introduction of a new type. Consequently, the work on the Ta 152 proceeded only very slowly, and it was not until the spring of 1944 that serious preparations for production were begun. By that time, the USAAF bomber offensive was in full gear, and the Luftwaffe was in dire straits. The Luftwaffe desperately needed a counter to the P-51 Mustang which was cutting German fighters to pieces. The wing of the proposed Ra-4D/Ta 153 had a slightly greater span and area than that of the Fw 190D. This wing was seen to have certain advantages over the wing originally envisaged for the Ta 152. In addition to having better aerodynamic characteristics, the Ta 153 wing was deemed easier to manufacture and was capable of carrying more fuel. The Luftwaffe consequently proposed that that the new wing be adopted for the Ta 152B, with the outboard panels and flaps being extended for the long-span Ta 152H. Kurt Tank was still pressing for permission to use the DB 603 engine in the Ta 152, owing to its superiority over the Jumo 213E at high altitudes. Although the Luftwaffe still insisted that the Jumo 213E remain the primary Ta 152 powerplant, it permitted Tank to begin work on a DB 603-powered version under the designation Ta 152C. There was no designation conflict with the Fw 190C, since all work on that version had been abandoned by this time owing to chronic turbosupercharger problems. The first Ta 152H prototypes were completed in the summer of 1944. Several Fw 190C airframes were used in the project. The first Ta 152H-0 service test aircraft rolled off the assembly lines in October-November 1944. The Ta 152H-0s had no fuel tanks in their wings. They were joined a month later by the first production Ta 152H-1 aircraft, which had fuel tanks in the wings. The Ta 152H-1 was armed with one engine-mounted 30-mm MK 108 cannon with 90 rounds and two 20-mm MG 151 cannon in the wings with 175 rpg. 330 pounds of armor were carried for the protection of the engine and the pilot. Most production machines were delivered to Ta 152H-1/R11 bad-weather fighter standards. A MW 50 boost tank was fitted in the inboard port wing tank for use in enhancing low-altitude performance, with the GM 1 high-altitude boost tank aft of the cockpit being standard. Approximately 150 Ta 1252H-1 fighters were manufactured between January 1, 1945 and the final abandoning of production with the arrival of Soviet forces at the Cottbus assembly plant. No Jagdgruppen ever completely converted to the type, but several Jagdstaffeln operated the Ta 152H alongside the Fw 190D and other types. Most of the Ta 152s operated in the close-support role. Others flew "top-cover" for bases from which Messerschmitt Me 262 jet fighters operated, trying to protect the jets from being "bounced" by Allied fighters during takeoff or landing. It was said that no British or American fighters risked attacking an Me 262 during landing while Ta 152s were known to be circling the airfield. The large wing area of the Ta 152 made it quite easy to fly. Most of the Ta 152Hs, however, were destroyed on the ground by Allied air attacks while awaiting delivery. A few Ta 152Hs were allocated to the Mistel program. Near the end of 1944, Kurt Tank himself had a narrow escape while flying one of his Ta 152Hs. He was flying from Langenhagen near Hannover to attend a meeting at the Focke-Wulf plant in Cottbus. His plane carried armament, but no ammunition. Shortly after takeoff, he was jumped by four Mustangs. Tank pressed the button which activated his MW 50 boost, opened the throttle wide, and quickly left the Mustangs far behind in a cloud of blue smoke. Engine: Junkers Jumo 213E-1 twelve-cylinder liquid-cooled engine rated at 1750 hp for takeoff (2050 hp with MW 50 boost) and 1320 hp at 32,800 feet (1740 feet with GM 1 boost). Maximum speed: 332 mph at sea level (350 mph with MW 50 boost), 465 mph at 29,530 feet with MW 50 boost, 472 mph at 41,010 feet with GM 1 boost. Service ceiling was 48,550 feet with GM 1 boost. Initial climb rate was 3445 feet/minute with MW 50 boost. Weights were 8642 pounds empty, 10,472 pounds normal loaded, 11,502 pounds maximum. Wingspan 47 feet 41/2 inches, length 35 feet 1 2/3 inches, height 11 feet 0 1/4 inches, wing area 250.8 square feet. The Ta 152B has originally been envisaged as having interchangeable Jumo 213 or DB 603 "power eggs", but with the acceptance of the Ta 152C the Jumo 213 was standardized. The original plan to install cabin pressurization was abandoned. However, it was decided to give higher priority to the Ta 152C, and only three prototypes of the Ta 152B-series were completed before the war came to an end. Series production orders for the Ta 152C had been placed in October 1944, the delays being a result of the Luftwaffe still continuing to support the Jumo 213 over the DB 603 for the Ta 152 as late as the autumn of 1944. The Ta 152C with the lighter DB 603 engine was otherwise identical to the Ta 152B. It was considered primarily as a Zerstorer. The MW 50 boost installation for the enhancement of low-altitude performance was standard. An Fw 190D prototype had been rebuilt and flown with a DB 603 engine in support of the Ta 152C program, and this plane took to the air for the first time in October 1944. During December 1944 and January 1945, the first Ta 152C-O service test aircraft joined the test program. The definitive production version was to be the Ta 152C-1, and it was hoped that the first examples could be rolling off the production lines in April of 1945. However, series production of the Ta 152C was only just beginning when Allied forces overran the assembly plants, so this fighter never entered service with the Luftwaffe. The Ta 152C-1 was powered by a Daimler-Benz DB 603LA twelve-cylinder liquid cooled engine rated at 2100 hp (2300 hp with MW 50) for takeoff and 1750 hp at 29,530 feet (1900 hp at 27,560 feet with MW 50). Armed with one engine-mounted 30-mm MK 108 cannon with 90 rounds, two fuselage-mounted 20-mm MG 151 cannon with 250 rpg, and two wing-mounted 20-mm MG252 cannon with 175 rpg. Maximum speed was 227 mph at sea level (356 mph with MW 50), 436 mph at 37,730 feet (460 mph at 32,810 feet with MW 50). Initial climb rate was 3050 feet per minute and service ceiling was 40,350 feet. Weights were 8849 lbs empty, 10,658 lbs normal loaded, and 11,733 pounds maximum. Wingspan was 36 feet 1 inch, length was 35 feet 6 1/2 inches, height was 11 feet 1 inch, and wing area was 290.89 square feet. There is a long and complex list of experimental subtypes (both actual and proposed) of the Ta 152B, C, and H, much too long to list here. See one of the references listed below if you are really interested. Some Ta 152s are known to have been captured and returned to the USA for study. TX-ZenBlack 6
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2004, 05:28:30 pm »

Don't mind me, just celebrating the moment TX-ZenBlack 6
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2004, 05:33:31 pm »

And this one is for manford:(of particular note are the twin MK108 cannons in the rear turret, remote controlled by pilot head movement and sighted through rear-view mirrors)TX-ZenBlack 6
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