CFS3

[TX-BlackKnight]

In my grubby little hands and getting loaded in about 5 mins. Muhahahahah...




TX-BlackKnight
Black2

 

[TX-Deck]

Slap a review up here when you have a chance, I'm interested, skeptical, and excited all at the same time.   If the flight model is comparable to IL2, I will have to go grab a copy for sure.Thanks,TX-Deck out.

[TX-Rahman]

I just called GameStop and they're holding a copy for me.  They're supposed to get the FedEx this morning.... Regards,TX-Rahman"BLUE 3"

[TX-Cage]

I will be going to pick up myself a copy sometime today/tonight as well.Man can shopping really wear you out.  Been doing Car, Baby, Furniture, and Christmas shopping all week.Finally finished fighting the insurance company about our corolla being totalled, while parked at my wife's office.  Now I am fighting Federal Express for the package that was overnighted on Tuesday.  Here it is Friday, and once again they say tomorrow it will arrive.  Hope they don't screw up the game shipments like they have my important one.S~TX-CageBlack 5

[TX-Chukar]

Come on, you've had it now for over 5 hrs and no review!....I can't take much more of this.Ahhh,TX-Chuckar out

[TX-Kingsnake]

I am a huge nerd. I have my preordered copy of CFS 3. I might never get laid again. If only I could install it here at work. Flying by keyboard wouldn't be fun. Anyway, I took the flight stick home. When last I played CFS 2 it had lousy arcade flight models, silly cartoon interludes, and an inflated damage zone. I could shoot down planes from half a click out.  Will it hold true to the axiom that quality decreases as quantity increases? I'll have to try it for at least a week to give it a fair review. If it stinks, Forgotten Battles is out in a month.Regards,TX-KingsnakeWhite 1

[TX-BlackKnight]

It is definately based on the first two, cfs1 and cfs2. The Uber planes will be the Spitfires. The German Planes are dogs. I have graphics turned up to 1280 X1024 and it looks sharp as hell. The crashes are a little hokey, but the bail outs look a lot more realistic than IL-2. I think it's worth the bucks ( comes with a $10 rebate if you have cfs1 or cfs2 or Flight Sim ). Takes more hits to bring down planes than IL-2 and the bullets definately have to be led.In a nutshell..so far I like it. 100 times more locations to fly at than IL-2. In quick combat after you kill alll the bad guys more come up, not like IL-2 when you kill them the mission is over. Ground scenery MUCH better than IL-2. Planes ? can't really tell yet..all the ones I get close to have flames comming from my guns...lolTX-BlackKnightBlack 2ps. 1.47 GB of space is needed for it..compared to 635 MB for IL-2

[TX-Deck]

Lmao... if you were to record the convesation I just had with Game-Stop....Deck "yes, I called earlier today and spoke with Rachael about reserving a copy of CFS3, has it come in yet?"Salesman " oh yeah, we got em in here a little while ago"Deck " outstanding, well could you pull back one for me just in case Rachael forgot to?"Salesman " what, you mean put your name on one?"Deck "why yes, what else?"silence........Deck "they are not exactly selling like hotcakes, are they?"Salesperson "ummm, no....   and we have plenty."Deck " ah, ok.   I'll see you in a while, thanks"Salesperson " ok, thank you"Not exactly Neverwinter Nights or Battlefield 1942, is it?  Regardless, I'm gonna go pick up a copy... if it blows my father-in-law is a big CFS fan, I'll give it to him.TX-Deck out.

[TX-BlackKnight]

I have discovered a bunch of bugs in it. Not cool. And I loaded it on my daughters setup with the Geforce3 ti-500..doesn't look or play near as well as on my machine. Not cool. Played a lot on-line today in the bombers at gun positions. The shots don't line up with the sights after a while. Not cool. Major lag in any game with less than a great connection. Oh well.....TX-BlackKnightBlack 2

[TX-EcoDragon]

If you like flat diorama skies, fire that looks like jello, bottom rudder for 1/8 second of knife edge, yank and bank with no spins and few stalls, super lag in big dogfights, a boat load of bugs. . . its a hot number!!I feel like sending a few copies of IL-2 to Microsoft, show them whats up. . . a cool little dude in Russia ate them for dinner. . . on at least two consecutive releases!if Oleg could add more to the campaign stuff (not that I have EVER flown any offline missions) and fix that dadgum (he he) dihedral modeling, this sim and the upcoming Forgotten Battles would be absofriggin'lutely unfriggin'touchable.  I had to try CFS3 anyway, as I really am hurting to fly some american steel (well. . . it sounds better than aluminum)  and at least the P-51 I flew was a nice version, the P-47 was a looker too. . . . But the Flight models were straight out of FS2002, and in some respects I wonder if CFS2 wasnt better in the FM department. . .seems that every new MS offering screws up pitch modelling even more. I gotta say though, its nice to  have to hold opposite aileron in the turns. . . .For those with the high end machines (dont belive that crap about system specs that micosoft puts on the box, they were saying a 486 all you needed to run FS98)  who enjoy the offline play, this one has potential, and the graphics aren't bad (the machine I used it on has a radeon 9700) but there still isnt any depth to the sky, and the ground looks comic booky to me. but I'll probably buy it anyway. .  .. . Sorry for the ranting. . . S! TX-Emuerr. . . . .EcoDragon

[TX-BlackKnight]

Just played the game with video set to 1600X1200. Wow ! What a difference!Played over London and I have to say that the graphics kick butt over ANYTHING in IL-2. Maybe this game is only good on high end machines.. I don't know, but I'll put any screen shot from CFS3 up against any from IL-2 any day of the week. The planes and the cockpits look amazing at this resolution and I was still getting 70 fps most of the time. true, there are a bunch of bugs in CFS3 and I hope that they are fixed but how many "updates " has IL-2 gone thru to get where it is now ?..and we still know that there are bugs in it we'd like fixed. If someone is biased against MS then no matter what they do it will never be enough. I admit that I am slightly biased against them for all the cheats in their games but so far I am enjoying the hell out of CFS3. With the game set to 100 percent I still manage to stall or damage my flaps. If I crash into someone or they into me..we BOTH are dead. Every time.I hope that people really give it a fair shot. This game has some serious potential. The German planes are far less maneverable than any other plane is the game..so when I blast someone out of the sky in my 109-10 it is just that much more sweeter.For the record...the first time that I played IL-2 I thought it was the most suck ass game I ever played. But I gave it a shot and well,......Now, I'm just burnt out on it and tired of all the BS that I have to put up with in the game..shooting the crap out of people and it does nothing...chasing around all the planes that are "lag " zipping across the screen, chasing someone and having them shooting me ( my all time favorite ), and chasing Yaks that could only be caught with an F14.Plus, one thing that disturbs me is when I first joined TX we were tight. Training, everyone was there. Now if we get 4 people on-line at the same time it's time to mark that date down on the calender . It seems others are getting burnt out on it too.TX-BlackKnightBlack 2

[TX-EcoDragon]

I have no particular bias either way, I look first at the flight physics, then graphics. . . for me the nice selection of add on aircraft is only of limited interest anymore, as they all have the same flight physics hiding in there and they aren't to MY style, I like the "3D" maneuvers, the stalls and spins, knife edge, the hammerheads etc. that IL-2 provides. It would be really awesome if the MS FM had that ability, as it would be oh so cool to have more US aircraft to fly, and the ability to fly in a limitless world, not to mention to fly against SO MANY people over there at the Zone. . .but the current MS FM isnt there yet, and strangelly the FM in FS98 was the most realistic that MS has had, since then its been funkified.   I have heard of one aftermarket addon Citabria (aerobatic trainer) for FS2002 that is advertising as having a realistic stall spin profile. . .but I haven't flown it yet, and its @30.00 just to get the dowload key. . . point is, that aftermarket designers like the VB and 1% crew may be able to work the physics some more. . .so I will wait and see.Getting burnt out?? bummer. . well, a change of scenery may be in order, I for one really dig this sim, sometimes I am shocked that I still trip out on it. . .it has seemed like lately the energy has changed with the general rooms, I hope that the things that have been erking you stop, as you are a great dude to fly with here.S!EcoDragon

[TX-BlackKnight]

Tonight I actually did a total reinstall of XP, and a fresh install of IL-2 to see if I could find out why my game is lagging so much lately. Neither fixed the problems. I got rid of DirectX9 and went with 8.2 from the cfs3 disk. No difference. I turned off all sound. No difference. I am at a total lack of explanation as to why I can be in a game of IL-2 and everyone has pings of under 100 and this "lag" crap is still going on. I think that narrowed it down to the obvious, but I could still hope.Went into another squads game under an alias and used a nifty little program I have called IP Tools so I could actaually look at each connection and each port. Was amazed to see that when I was on certain peoples tails and I could not seem to get a hit on them that the port for them went from "active connection " to " time_wait"..which means the connection was there but for what ever reason stopped exchanging data packets. I deleberately let them get around to my 6 and watched the connection go to "active" again. Isn't that just an amazing coincidence? Hope the next football game I bet on has odds like that.Only problem with running IP tools is it lets you have a frame rate of 12 while its running in the background. Could the IP tools program actually be causing the seen "lag " Yes, but could the sun also technically be not putting out light but sucking in darkness ? You get my point.If it ever gets down to the point that someone has to run one of these programs at all times to insure an honest game then what's the point ?My point is we all know what's going on out there..even in our own server but choose to look the other way or gaff it off. It's just getting harder and harder for me to look the other way, turn the other cheek, or gaff it off.Where did I get the idea to use this program? Hyperlobby. They also said that by pressing the "printscreen " it temp puts you into a "suspended" mode while windows sends the data saved to the clipboard. I asked the gentleman that told me about these "manipulations " ( we both called them that because we KNOW that no one in the IL-2 community would stoop to such an awful thing as cheating. That kind of thing is only done in MS games )Sure hope since this information is being spread around so freely that Oleg and comapany have taken note and will address in next update. One thing I have to give credit to IL-2 makers is for fixing bugs ( as much as feasable ) in the game. That is something that MS would never do. If you ever get a chance to read the tucker hatfield interview ( cfs3 ) look at question asker number 12 and see why cheating is a sore subject for me.TX-BlackKnightBlack 2

[TX-Rahman]

BK,          Just fyi man... I'm not burnt out on the game or the squadron.  I haven't been around for a number of reasons.  The main one is I built a new box and have been working out the bugs with it.  Using XP and XP doesn't support my rudders like 98 did....  plus, just bought a new place and am still painting etc....  Plus just got engaged...spending alot of time working on arrangements for the wedding etc....            So....I can safely say I'm not burnt out on the game or this great bunch of guys we call a squadron.  (To which I had the pleasure of meeting Tornado, Razor, CUDA, Cuda Jr., Cage & wife yesterday!!!)  Hang in there bud...I for one will be back online more in the very near future. Salute,TX-RahmanThe NEW BLUE2

[TX-Deck]

Just a couple of thoughts on CFS3...I bought it on Friday of last week, played for 20 minutes, then put it back in the box and returned it for a credit on Saturday night.  I simply wasn't impressed.I'll be the first to admit that 20 minutes isn't enough time to judge any software product, let alone something as hyped as CFS3.  I had a couple of other reasons besides the CFS3 package...First...  my time just like everyone else's is fairly limited.  I let the sloth mode kick in and I really didn't feel like troubleshooting and tweaking the game to my liking.  Yes, I was just plain lazy on this part.Second...  IL2 only has a couple of aspects which make me grit my teeth, the online lag spurts, and the overmodeled Russian aircraft.   Both of these I have learned to deal with and really don't bother me that much anymore.  I'm not upset with IL2 and realized that the current product is still hard to beat, even with some of the lesser appealing qualities.Third...  While we haven't seen the growth in the squadron like we saw back in July and August, I felt that moving to another online sim just wasn't the right thing to do right now.  I'm still gung-ho about building our squad and the relationships within.   Until the decision to move to CFS3 is a majority, then I'm fine with hanging out in the good ole TX-OC3 server for the time being.  After meeting with the guys this weekend at the airshow, my interest is severely renewed and I can't wait to get back online tonight and fly.I've already decided to take the credit I got on CFS3 and slap it towards my copy of FB, whenever that comes out.  The credit doesn't expire, so I will give Oleg all the time he needs to work out the details and improve upon IL2.Just some food for thought,TX-Deck out.P.S.    Blacknight,  I need my wingman!!!  Come back soon!!!!!