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« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2010, 02:47:39 am »

I even revisted SLI (single card version though) Smiley

Bevo just got a 295 and I can go check out ROF on his system - of course his quad is an I7, so I'd have to factor that in.

What do you think of the 295?

Well anyway, enough for tonight.

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« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2010, 02:57:10 am »

Well a 295 would be lesser than what i have but better than one 280 and depend on the VRAM load used as well.
A 295 will  not have 1 GB per card or GPU  it has 896MB x 2 .. so it's unclear for me ..
A 295 is two GTX 260 and also actually a SLI 260 can perform better than a 295.

A SLI 280 or a 285 is fantastic for now but i would be curious how ATI perform on Sim

Depend of some factors

It would be good if you could take to test one 295 from your job .. and compare .
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« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2010, 03:24:01 am »

That's a good idea!

Let me see if I can sneak one out for the weekend

let you know tommorow

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« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2010, 03:48:52 am »

Yes great Wink
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« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2010, 03:53:39 am »

Interesting stuff

Mega Test GTX295 Quad SLi vs GTX280 Tri SLi
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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2010, 04:26:25 am »

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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2010, 11:04:51 am »

Wow.  That's pretty incredible.  3 280's match 4 295's.....

Gozr - my friend Bevo is bringing me two cards today for testing.  A GTX 295 and 8800 GTX.  I'm ordering my 5870 right now.

So, I'll be able to benchmark in ROF, Il2 and WOP this weekend on the following cards:

- GTX 280
- GTX 295
- 8800 GTX

And when it arrives:

- Radeon 5870

As I was shopping for the new card - I found myself in the same place I was a year ago when I built my new system - the industry reviewers can't be bothered to test anything but FPS.

I'm going to call this the "TX-Ecodragon Memorial" TX-squadron graphics card shootout, and add a new thread to cover this. 

I wish I had an SLI baseline to test on.   Do you think I could use the 295 to get an idea of SLI performance?
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« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2010, 01:21:11 pm »

I don't like the shared 1xPCIE bandwith with the GTX 295 in some boards so it all depend but it is considered as SLI .

I think you'll be a bit disappointed with the ATI vs the 295 so make sure to RMA your 280 is something is starting to cook there but hopefully not and it will be very interesting !!! but 295 vs a 5870... lets see.!!! i think the GTX295 will get over the ATI... but the 5870 is a great single card.

Or maybe i could try Tri SLI with yours Wink Tri SLI , i can on my Mobo ( 3x16 ) Wink ( i do have EVGA 780i FTW on both my systems.. my server running 2x8800 SLI/Q9550) a Q9550 runs better than a Q9650 at the same cruising speed 3.6/3.Cool

Too bad you don't have FSX to benchmark some numbers. but what i can say is that when you guys are at 49 fps in RoF i think i hit triple digits..

The 8800 is still a good card and perfect for physics card.. but limited on the Vram for simming at 1920x1200
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« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2010, 02:41:16 pm »

Order done -

http://www.elitebastards.com/pic.php?picid=hanners/sapphire/5870-vaporx/images/board_profile.jpg

Vaporx - Sapphire 5870 on it's way.  Should have it in my hands on Tuesday.

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« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2010, 03:22:45 pm »

I'm only testing the 8800 because I can.  I'm giving the 295 and 8800 back to Bevo tommorow evening.  He's dropping them off right now.

One of the prevailing opinions is that you are wasting your money on the "new stuff" because of the nature of flight sims.  9800 GTX /8800 GTX

If I can get EVGA to RMA this board (which they will give me a GTX-285 for, as that's what they have been doing for a some months as there are not any 280's in stock) - I'll do it.  My warrenty is void however.  Perhaps they'll cut me a break.

Crossfired 5870's are outbenchmarking SLI'd GTX 285's.

Single 5870 is quieter, less power hungry and lower temperture's than any Nvidea product.

The only question is "How does all this translate to DX9 propeller aircraft combat sims"......

I thought about adding FSX for everyone's benefit - however I'm afraid that all the add-on's and configuration settings I'd have to twiddle with would take too much time and I only have these two cards until tommorow.


Holding 295 in my hands.....

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« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2010, 04:47:03 pm »



The ATI card is a tight faster but in no way faster than the bigger SLI's .. but the SLI 280/285 crushes the Ati. since a single 295 already get better than the 5870 and the 295 is two 260's.. now saying that 8800 or 9800 is better for flight sim i would NOW disagree strongly the SLI 280 kills the 8800's i can tell you and i can run them side by side on my two system Wink

PS: It just take 3 lines in the config to tweak FSX now and for the addons well it depend what you want really or where.. But King may give you a better feeling for this..
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« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2010, 04:55:38 pm »

(HD) Radeon HD 5870 Vs GTX 295 CO-OP


HIS HD 5870 Video Card vs. EVGA GTX 295 Video Card Results


Now the 295 has two GPU's the ATI one, the 295 has 896 mb Vram the ATI 1GB..

Two 5870's should scream on crossfire!!!.. The wattage on the ATI is much better ..
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« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2010, 05:57:39 pm »

I like 16XAA + 16XAF, alot I like ROF ground textures on high, I like some of the effects.  So that pretty much kills any card without 1 MB and should crush this 8800 (but I don't know til I test it...).... at 1920 X 1200.

I just uninstalled/cleaned in safe mode - reinstalled in safe mode this January driver (I know there was lots of moaning over on the Nvidea forums about these) but I like to test on the most recent WQHL driver because that's what most simmers are going to go and get.  Anyway... on to the testing  - I'll start a new thread on results....


We will see what we will see Smiley  GTX 280 rebenched first in ROF with settings max'd out...

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« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2010, 08:38:14 pm »

Yes that will be hard on the 8800 on High terrain texture, it overload the Vram of the card you will have to go Medium terrain on that one.
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« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2010, 08:36:12 pm »

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