Guys - I really think I have a bad problem developing here - GTX280

[TX-Gunslinger]

GTX 280 kicks the butt of the GTX 295 in ROF

I just changed from 2 GPU (stuttering in the neoqb green cube at the start)
to
Single GPU (no stuttering in the neoqb green cube and audio)

I would be really mad if I bought this card....

Can you get better frames in ROF with SLI Gozr?

The lack of 1GB of VRAM makes a big difference in what you can run.....  The bandwidth in GPU-Z is less too

Any ideas?

It's like less than a 260 X 2 - and feels like it...

S~

Gunny

[GOZR]

Yes Gunny as i said before where you get 49 FPS i get the double basically i'm pretty much in the triple digit on all high ofcourse.. But here a trick that Nvidia suck..  the profiles are wrong.. The new driver do not come with the split format, only on Nvidia recommendation witch is alternate 1 and 2.. and actually i make them split and no alternate crap. The last driver that had this function was the 182.50 ( around that one ) unless you tweak a lot with Riva-tuner ( like me ) or Nhancer to built customs at will profiles..

Yes Gunny 1 GB and above is now a must. I will get 2GB on my next ones for sure.. The lower and stutters are a lot in part with textures load.. i have been saying that years ago while back testing my others SLI's back then..
Same with Il2 many where around 70/90 fps when i was at 300

I love to tune it's my hobby I was the only guy around that made my 7950GX2 ( dual GPU card worked great and kicking ass )

With the ATI .. a bit harder to tweak or tune but somehow i like their technology of crossfire.. so we have hope.
Now by going ATI 5870 1GB ( gad dam no less than 1 GB ) i think it should be very very interesting.. for the good.. lets see this..

I would of love to test it as well as GTX 285 2GBversion on SLI.. i bet i would of made some nice benchmark for flight sims..

[GOZR]

I'm looking at the new GPU  GF100 coming up from Nvidia and i'm quite please to see the GRR5 and more Memory bus width then the ATI .. The new Surround technology coming up also give a great future for us.

But lets see what is next..  exiting isn't it ?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/01/17/nvidias_fermi_gf100_facts_opinions
http://hardocp.com/news/2010/01/17/rumored_fermi_videos

[TX-Gunslinger]

Well, read closely the summaries:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/01/17/nvidias_fermi_gf100_facts_opinions/3

If Nvidea pulls it off, yes - but they don't seem to be all that close right now.  Read closely the conclusions sections to these articles.

It remains to be seen - Based upon what I'm reading, you might not be able to touch one of these below $700 before June.  If you can wait till mid-summer or fall - cool.  Maybe it won't show up at all.

If they had a product ready, it would be on the shelves or at least in the hands of reviewers.  My guess is they are trying their hardest to iron out what much be large issues (heat, power maybe) prior to April (End of 1st quarter sales reporting).  Since the 2nd business quarter runs till June -that would seem to be the "make or break" date for this architecture.

We'll see.  Certainly the incorporation of Tessellation technology for DX11 is super.

If the GF100, shows I might have to get one if it really shows that kind of performance, applicable to flight sim 3D.

Thanks

S~

Gunnny

[TX-Gunslinger]

Gozr, I just re-read your post above from the other day...

So you have SLI working on your two GTX-280's in ROF?

Thanks,

S~

Gunny

[GOZR]

Yeas , we will see what will come up of all this  more cards more competitions better for us..  personally i don't care who is making the best cards as long as they perform for us with a low price 700 $ is just bad. but i can wait there is no single card at the moment that can take an SLI 280 yet. I can wait surely wait.
For the moment many Mobo maker do not make SLI well and since i need SLI for higher performances i'm sure i'll stick with the one that deliver as usual but once again i don't care whom.

For the moment i'm still with my Nvidia because it's what i have and I'm still in the highest OC and performance around the hood.

It's all about the performances preferences of each of us. Power ratio money and seeing all those companies battling for the best prices performances .. hell yea!!

100% agreed, the incorporation of Tessellation technology for DX11 cool stuff

[GOZR]

Yeas .. even with the 8800 SLI that i'm typing now ROF runs great!!! ( stutter all over with Terrain at hight due to 123 % over memory so i'm using Medium on this PC server and dual monitors ) 3 total that why i'm waiting for the new stuff surround !!

[TX-Gunslinger]

Enjoy your domination while it lasts  5870/5850 have been out since summer......

What is your highests stable CPU clock btw?

BTW my mobo is 8X for the other PCIE video slot......


S~

Gunny

[GOZR]

Terrain high = 123 %
Terrain medium 36 %

Big difference... go figure

[GOZR]

8x is oK Gunny you should try the mix card thing  look at the bandwith that the card is using.

I did 4.4 on the Q9650 on 4 GB but i'm using 8 GB S0 4.2 is a good max with 4x 2GB but since i really don't need i get wise and run on cruise @ 4050 GHZ ( til summer ) with 8 GB 4 sticks witch is difficult to OC luckly the EVGA FTW is a great strong board and demand some Voltages tweaks

[GOZR]

Some how lately i have my network card driver quitting on me.. need to reload my drivers all around

[Voxman]

Interesting reading here guys.   How has the testing gone Gunny?

I just upgraded from an 8800 GTS 320Mb...yep...slow card, to an HD 5770 VaporX.  Gotta keep the budget low as I've got one kid eyeing colleges back east...
Anyway, big improvement in ROF, but issues in IL2.  Mostly the Cat drivers, but not unplayable.  It actually really plays nicely.

I'm anxious to see your results Gunny.

[TX-Gunslinger]

V*O*X*M*A*N!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Vox, somewhere in my insane searching to attempt to find the cure for the ATI Il2 illness - I came across a post (probably at UBI) of yours where you had found that playing "The Black Death Track" for a little bit cured the text/gui corruption.

I think that was on Friday.  Anyway - I found another solution (based on your theme), which may be quicker.

Start QMB with all aircraft slots full (helps to save a mission) - and in about 8-12 seconds - the text corruption will dissappear.

I've had to switch back to ROF testing this weekend, but will endeavor to finish somthing soon. 

Here's my conf.ini - except for text corruption at the beginning - it's working very well and the game is very playable with water = 2

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=3
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=3
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=2
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1


I imagine you already  have all this, but just in case...

S~

Gunny

[TX-Gunslinger]

I'll post frames soon - the Nvidea's will get better frames with their "Substandard" anti-aliasing algorithms......

Great to see you Vox....  Let me know where you guys are flying these days....  I need a little Il2 action....  I loaded up that UltraPak 2.0 a few weeks ago and realized I didn't even know the game anymore

S~

Gunny

[TX-Thunderbolt]

I was the only guy around that made my 7950GX2 ( dual GPU card worked great and kicking ass )

NOT TRUE! 

It took me considerably longer, and ultimately I don't even know what I did to get it to scream, but my 7950GX2 was pushing 200+ frames when you were doing 300 and everyone else was sitting happily on 80.

I found that card interesting, but just too many quirks and way too tempermental. The switch to a G92 8800GTS 512 was like an epiphany.

I absolutely love my 285GTX and have had no problems at all with it. For me, this card will have to suffice (it's not I'm suffering with anyway  ) until something substantially better comes out that is fairly plug-n-play and can easily outperform what I currently have with stable drivers and broad application.

I'm not as willing as some to give up on NV. My last 5 cards have been NV and I haven't had an ATI card since the old ATI 9800 Pro ruled the roost.